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Subject :  Have you noticed casinos never make payouts in $10 bills?
posted by SleightOfHand on Sep-06-2010 11:27pm

I don’t get it as to why casinos never give any $10 bills as soon as you cash in a ticket at the cashier confine or the ticket release machine.


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Subject :  Going to Vegas tomorrow for 5 days Condition report?
posted by tonyspade on Aug-29-2010 08:23am
Hey everyone!  I'm going to Vegas for 5 days and I was wondering if anyone had real time intelligence on where to play some good 6 deck games? I bought the current Blackjack news, but I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions where to play.  thanks. Tony

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Subject :  Re: Going to Vegas tomorrow for 5 days Condition report?
posted by SleightOfHand on Aug-31-2010 12:53pm

tonyspade wrote:
> Hey everyone!  I'm going to Vegas for 5 days and I was wondering if anyone had real time intelligence on where to play some good 6 deck games? I bought the current Blackjack news, but I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions where to play.  thanks. Tony

Try to Avoid 6-Deck Blackjack Games


http://grochowski.casinocitytimes.com/article/avoid-6-5-single-deck-blackjack-games-820




Subject :  vegas
posted by mophus on Aug-31-2010 08:42pm

SleightOfHand wrote:
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> tonyspade wrote:
> > Hey everyone!  I'm going to Vegas for 5 days and I was wondering if anyone had real time intelligence on where to play some good 6 deck games? I bought the current Blackjack news, but I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions where to play.  thanks. Tony
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>

Try to Avoid 6-Deck Blackjack Games



> http://grochowski.casinocitytimes.com/article/avoid-6-5-single-deck-blackjack-games-820
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Indeed, avoid the six deck games, the two deck games and the single deck games.  Play Keno instead! 



Subject :  Re: vegas
posted by JSTAT on Sep-01-2010 08:02am
mophus wrote:
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> Indeed, avoid the six deck games, the two deck games and the single deck games.  Play Keno instead! 

Some six deck games on the Las Vegas Strip are among the best offered in the world. MGM, NYNY, Aria, Wynn, and other 6 deck carpet joints on the Strip are only a .26 casino edge. Most are $25 minimum with late surrrender, S17, RSA to water down the odds of losing applying only basic strategy. A decent card count will aid the player to a positive advantage faster than double deck games with H17 in Vegas. Not many of these games left, since they have been eaten by CSM's and 6:5 blackjack.

As for keno, Lee Pete of KDWN sports talk radio in the 80's once said, "In case of an eathquake, go to a keno lounge. To my knowledge, nothing has ever been hit in one."




Subject :  Play keno should work better
posted by SleightOfHand on Sep-01-2010 01:04pm

mophus wrote:
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> SleightOfHand wrote:
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> > tonyspade wrote:
> > > Hey everyone!  I'm going to Vegas for 5 days and I was wondering if anyone had real time intelligence on where to play some good 6 deck games? I bought the current Blackjack news, but I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions where to play.  thanks. Tony
> >
> >

Try to Avoid 6-Deck Blackjack Games


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> > http://grochowski.casinocitytimes.com/article/avoid-6-5-single-deck-blackjack-games-820
> >
> Indeed, avoid the six deck games, the two deck games and the single deck games.  Play Keno instead! 


Thanks tonyspade I  always use Play keno



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Subject :  Re: Going to Vegas tomorrow for 5 days Condition report?
posted by tonyspade on Sep-06-2010 05:17pm
Thanks for the advice.  I had a great time.  The report from BJ21 came in real handy.  The intelligence was spot on.  I played the Bellagio and Aria.  By far the Bellagio had the best games.  Played 6 deck shoes. Started with $2100 and after 2.5hrs I was up $700. Felt good.  I thought I would try the Aria. Nice place but lost the $700 plus. Went back to the Bellagio a day later and did a marathon 8hr session.  Walked away +$450. All in all a good trip.

I saw some crazy stuff while there.  I saw a guy take a $25,000 marker, drunk out of his mind, playing the $1000 min table.  He kept yelling at the pit bosses and casino manager. He lost everything in about 1.5hrs. He then asked for another marker. The casino manager told him he was tapped out.  He then made him sign some paperwork and he was done. Crazy to watch.

I can't wait to go back.


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Subject :  Pro21, the Flamingo Capri and me
posted by Crazy_Pete on Jul-25-2010 12:05pm
I was recently re-reading an old Blackjack Forum (Fall 2001), which mentions 'Tales From the Trenches', most memorable stories from top pros of various gambling disciplines. I had my .0000000015 minutes of fame by being referred to in Grosjean's story (I was referred to as 'Unknown Man').


 One of the Tales was credited to 'Pro21', who I assume is the same Pro21 who posts here and is, obviously, indeed a Top Pro (I'm not bad, but I can't hold his jockstrap).


 Anyway, he talks about his first Vegas trip, and mentions how he stayed at the Flamingo Capri. That was a ROFLMFAO moment for me... I didn't think anyone else remembered that place! (even tho their 'garden apt' hotel rooms are STILL there, part of IP, and labeled as The Capri Building). Hey, Pro21, the Flamingo Capri was the 1st place I stayed at, too! Ah, the memories! Day after Christmas, 1975. Went with 4 high school friends.  2 were underaged, but no one ever got carded (Vegas was VERY lax about carding anyone who looked older than Junior High age, a HUGE difference from now). In a prime Strip location, but the place was absolutely dead. One thing that stood out was how sloppy dealers were when they peeked for BJ- I was just a fledgling counter at the time, but the concept of Spooking became immediately obvious to me (probably could have done '1st basing' solo if the idea had occured to me). Their surveillance and game protection apparently amounted to nothing more than magnified parabolic mirrors over the tables, and my friends later told me how, with the only pitcritter drunk and napping, the dealer intentionally hit a few of his 17's and paid off his larger betting colleague along with the rest of the table. Ah, the Good Old Days, wish game protection was like that now!


 Several other stories come back to mind, like how we all came very close to getting killed, literally, on the drive back to California.  The 25 cent hot dogs. Candy The Dealer.The many exploitable possibilities that I was oblivious to. Watching the original 'Hail Mary Pass' with my best friend who was a HUGE Vikings fan.



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Subject :  Great to see you surface, Crazy Pete
posted by WRX. on Aug-29-2010 11:24pm
This is what we like to see, more stories from the old days!

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Subject :  Re: Pro21, the Flamingo Capri and me
posted by Pro21 on Sep-05-2010 10:16pm
Hey Pete,

I hadn't checked this board in a long time so just now saw this post. I
actually didn't get to stay at the Flamingo Capri because they had
overbooked it. They moved me to the old Showboat out on Boulder Hwy. I
didn't remember I had ever written about that. Good memories.

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Subject :  Winning, Non-Counting, Non-Progression or Regression Strategy
posted by Overkill on Sep-05-2010 12:00pm


Hello friends,

I’d like to report on my winning strategy. Not to my surprise, the strategy is working with yet a third sample of blackjack data. After going through 1591 manually (and professionally, by someone other than me) dealt hands of this third sample, my strategy is ahead 890.5 units. I have calculated a ‘win-rate’ of 55.97% with this sample of 1591 hands. (I define win rate as a ratio of # of units won divided by non-push hands: i.e., 890.5/1591=55.97%.).

If my calculations are correct, according to 1591 hands of perfect 6-deck blackjack, one should expect to be at about 779.5 units instead of the 890.5 units my strategy has yielded thus far. At 890.5 units, it looks as though my strategy has yielded about + 111 units, or roughly $5 million dollars had I been playing at a $50,000 table (or about $25,000,000 at a $250,000 table). It's not my intention to start a thread about the soundness of the above math. Let's keep it simple: if the three samples I have used thus far are representative of the 'population' of blackjack played in casinos, then I can somehow become a very rich man.

How do I proceed from here, given that I want to make millions but lack the $500,000 bankroll that I’d like to have to get started? Write a book? Somehow sell the idea to Hollywood? Advertise on Craigslist? I have tried, and a simulation cannot be run on my strategy.

Also,
1) If I implement my strategy in a real casino or an online casino, eventually the principles behind the strategy will become evident to casino personnel and other players. Though the strategy is mathematically sound and not illegal, and though it does not involve any calculators, gadgets, communication devices, secret glasses, residue, or whatever, can’t casino personnel eventually ask me to leave their premises (even if I have attorneys and other witnesses at my side) if I continue to show a steady and logical profit?

2) If they are able to understand how I am able to gain an edge without counting, will this mean that my strategy will become worthless because of possible subsequent casino countermeasures such as changing rules, etc.

3) I’m thinking I need an ally, someone that I can trust that knows more about real-casino blackjack operations than a numbers geek like me. I have told absolutely nobody about how this strategy works. It seems clear to me that if I were to have the opportunity (after asking them to sign some sort of non-disclosure agreement) to spend 1 hour with the likes of, say, Dr. Wong, that they would say that my strategy would not be easy to implement but that it is mathematically sound. So, any ideas are welcomed. For example, at a non-casino location interested parties could choose an off-duty dealer of their own to deal me X number of hands while he/she is somehow blind to exactly how I play. Also, can one copyright this kind of information? Perhaps an attorney could help me out?

4) Perhaps the only solution is to keep the strategy to myself and save my money until over time I can slowly increase my bankroll. It’s just so frustrating to have a strategy that is showing so much promise but not be able to really utilize it in a high-stakes manner. What are some ideas on how I can proceed?



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Subject :  My suggestion
posted by Neko on Sep-05-2010 12:09pm
Contact AS directly.  He has always been willing to help anyone with new systems in the past.  He will give you an honest and true evaluation, without disclosing your system to anyone without your permission. 

Neko



Subject :  OK, thanks Neko (nt)
posted by Overkill on Sep-05-2010 06:24pm


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Subject :  Dealing 21 to Uston/Kreskin
posted by JSTAT on Sep-05-2010 05:31pm
I dealt single deck blackjack to Kreskin in 1979 on the graveyard shift at Harolds Club in Reno. He was doing a show at Harrah's and decided to play blackjack afterwards. The table was empty and he came up to my table and bought in with a $100 bill. Kreskin hardly said a word and spread $5-$20 and won a couple of hundred dollars.

From seeing his shows, I was wondering if Kreskin could read my mind while peeking under a ten card or ace, looking for the dreaded dealer blackjack. Kreskin said he does not read minds and plays blackjack to unwind after a show. He also said that Harrah's barred him from playing blackjack and was welcome at Harolds Club playing this small amount.

The Amazing Kreskin is a true blackjack aficionado and from my own empirical analysis, one of the best 21 players in the world. He uses playing cards for a living as a mentalist and probably is as close to Ray from the movie "Rainman" in his ability to remember cards as anyone in the world.

On an another occasion at Harolds Club, a pit boss gave me a tap on the shoulder while dealing craps and instructed me to deal 21 to a high roller who was winning big. The whale turned out to be blackjack legend Ken Uston who was playing $500 chips and torching the table. The superstitious pit felt that a craps dealer can put an end to Uston's winning streak. I happened to be on a winning run for the house and beat him until he finally surrendered after losing much of his winnings back. Maybe the other dealers weren't protecting the game such as exposing hole cards and delivering tells to Uston when checking for blackjacks. In Uston's book "Million Dollar Blackjack" he refers to "Barbara, the Harolds Club front-loader" (front loader - a careless dealer who exposes the hole card in the process of dealing) and maybe I was sent to replace Barbara who was dumping house money.

While working at the Sahara Reno in August 1978, a cheer was heared among the pit when it was announced that Uston was beat up by security at the Mapes Money Tree. Didn't know who Uston was until the pit bosses claimed he was a cheat and deserved the thumping. Others said he was a card counter and this was a message to card counters all over the world. This perked my interest in card counting and the challenge it provides.

While dealing craps in Las Vegas in 1980, a casino called The Treasury (now Hooters) on Tropicana Boulevard displayed Uston's name on its marquee. He was giving lessons on card counting at this casino! Did he sell his soul to the enemy or want to see his name in lights? Is card counting bunk and a sham was my first impression during the sight of this marquee.

Recalling Kreskin's skill at winning at blackjack has stuck to this day. Kreskin did not use weak dealers to gain an advantage and probably used his knowledge of excess aces and tens to win. Bet with your head instead of over it and don't worry about "cheaters justice" (from the movie Casino) because the corporations running casinos now are smart enough to avoid the old tactics.

http://casinoexaminer-jstat.blogspot.com/2010/09/dealing-21-to-ustonkreskin.html

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Subject :  Questions on the count
posted by amwbaw123 on Aug-31-2010 04:26pm
In a 6 deck shoe if they shuffle at 4.5 decks is it actually a 4.5 deck in the count? Also, how often do you recalculate the discard?

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Subject :  Translation please?
posted by ETFan on Sep-03-2010 07:23pm

amwbaw123 wrote:
> In a 6 deck shoe if they shuffle at 4.5 decks is it actually a 4.5 deck in the count?
 
  If you're trying to calculate the true count, you divide by the number of cards unseen, including any cards behind the cut card.  Example: You're sitting at a 6 deck shoe game, you've seen the faces of 52 cards and counted them to get your running count.  You divide the running count by 5 (10 if you're working with half decks) to get the true count.  Some people find it easier to multiply by 0.2, which has the same effect as dividing by 5.  Hope that answers your question...
 
> Also, how often do you recalculate the discard?
 
  Now ya got me.  The discard is the discard.  What's to calculate?
 
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